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Take the Poll: Should Mamaroneck Purchase Hampshire?

Hampshire Country Club fairway

If a public vote were held today on the following question, how would you vote:

Should the Town of Mamaroneck and Village of Mamaroneck issue $10 million in bonds to acquire the Hampshire Country Club lands and facilities to be preserved as open space and for public recreation?

  • Yes (85%, 627 Votes)
  • No (13%, 96 Votes)
  • Undecided (2%, 18 Votes)
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29 comments to Take the Poll: Should Mamaroneck Purchase Hampshire?

  • Christopher Linkas

    We need the open space and fields. This is a one time opportunity for the town.

  • Myra Harris

    I would like the Village of Larchmont to partner in this too!

  • Old Yeller

    This would be great for the people of Mam’k – they don’t have anything as beautiful as Manor Park and this will give them something to own and cherish. I think it should be turned into something similar to Rye Golf Club – a membership fee, albeit small, needs to be incurred. This keeps out the bad elements and litter bugs which fester many public parks and beaches in America.

  • JKS

    This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to create more greenspace, fields, and a lovely (non-exclusive) public pool and golf course similar to what Scarsdale and Rye have, but we don’t really–to make our wonderful town even better. I hope the town and villages can find a way to do this, and that with a public-private (or nonprofit) partnership, donations, and community support, this can be a possibility!

  • Manor Park lover

    There is only so much land available, and it would be criminal not to grab this property while we can. Cherry Lawn is a blight upon humanity, and we must protect grass, trees, and wetlands whenever possible. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to preserve this land. A public club combined with trails and open spaces makes a lot of sense.

  • How can I vote if I don’t know how this will affect taxes. If it raises taxes, I would vote absolutely no. I have had too many friends who had to leave town because they could not afford to stay in their homes due to our horrible taxes.

    • Anon E Mous

      Excellent question Jacqueline. But don’t blame the Gazette which is consistently is a valuable source of information.

      There is evidence that knowledge is not a requirement for voting in elections and even more so for those elected.

      But is probably fair to expect that if our municipal governments purchase something that could not be run profitably by private industry, removes it from the tax rolls, and tries to run it, your taxes will go up.

      A former member of the VOM Board, Tom Murphy, has reportedly tried to get some information on the municipalities’ plans for this endeavor from the Village but has been refused.

      ‘Yes Tom is correct. Everyone should be asking for a copy too. Once in a lifetime opportunity, then there would be a pretty long line of potential buyers. Once in a lifetime opportunity, whispered Bernie the Barker to potential investors. Many may think this once in a lifetime opportunity is free or at least an incredible bargain that they don’t need pay for. Oh, but they don’t have the numbers or the plans, so it sounds great, we just can’t tell what is real, but its not free or cheap. And we can’t even get the report we paid for it seems. So down the road when our government talks about mandates and fixed costs and things like that as taxes go up; when those who see open fields of grass cry out for artificial turf because the fields are wet, when the government is unable to operate the property without the same or even more losses then private citizens did, then at least we can remember it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. We just may not remember for what it was an opportunity. And as we see the empty space along Palmer and BPR we may wonder what shortage of open space someone saw. Perhaps someone will even suggest that the shops be converted to a central park as the shoppers and their sale tax dollars go to Fairway in Pelham, Costco, et al in New Rochelle and 3D movies in Portchester, etc.’ – Source unknown.

  • Antonio Anselmo

    Louisiana Purchase. Columbia River Basin. Manhattan Island. Alaska. Hawaii. Even Manor Park and Flint Park. Land – they stopped making that stuff a long time ago. A place for future generations of Mamaroneck residents. Need I say anymore. As Maximus said in the opening scene of Gladiator: Brothers, what we do in life… echoes in eternity.

  • Shelly Blaufeux

    This would be a HUGE asset to our town and would surely attract future residents which will only elevate home values. I think we should use this space and build a facility similar to the rye ymca. THIS WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!!

  • Mamaroneck Resident

    While Hampshire was unable to compete in the arena of the expensive private country clubs that abound in our area, I would wager that families of Larchmont and Mamaoneck would certainly be interested in an alternative to the area private clubs. A place that is more inclusive rather than exclusive, for our friends and neighbors. We have successful models to follow in Rye and Eastchester, which offer affordable annual memberships with no inititation fees. I see no reason that we cannot create the same type of recreational facility for the residents of Larchmont and Mamaroneck.

  • Cathy DeVore

    I support the purchase of Hampshire. To allow this opportunity to pass would be a mistake. Even if taxes need to be raised, let’s not be penny wise and pound foolish… This is an investment in our shared future. The land purchase has a direct cause:effect on our entire community’s quality of life. The potential tax increase will be more than offset by the value created in both day to day quality of life and the increased value of our homes.

    • Anon E Mous

      And ‘a HUGE asset Shelly, creates owners equity plus huge liability (Accounting 101).

      If the opportunity so great and success so assured, where is the line of private companies waiting to operate this non-exclusive endeavor on a rational profitable basis. And why have we not heard the plans or potential impact on taxes from our government representatives who hide not only behind anonymity but behind the curtain of silence. Negotiations may be best conducted in private but the plans and impact should not be so shielded.

      ‘Unless you have prepared yourself to profit by your chance, the opportunity will only make you ridiculous. A great occasion is valuable to you just in proportion as you have educated yourself to make use of it.’ – Orison Swett Marden

  • Breath of Fresh Air

    I don’t know how many of you had the privilege of being a guest at Hamsphire in the past or using the facilities as a member, but it was a lovely club. It had a very small swimming pool, great for a small private club but no where near the size of a Rye Golf Club pool for instance and that needs to be taken into consideration. The entire club would need to renovated in order to accomodate a large membership, which is what it would become if open to the public. There would have to be a fee charged to join, Rye Golf Club has this and it works well in offsetting costs. Not everyone in Rye wants to use it because they have many private clubs there already – so those who want to use it, should have to pay something, other than just the full burden dumped on the tax payers. I think the Town should carefully research the successful model at RGC and see if that would work for the residents of Mamaroneck if Hampshire became a Mamaroneck property. Due diligence my friends, is a requirement here.
    One thing that would be nice to see, after years and years of segregation at private clubs in Westchester County, to have more “openness” and inclusiveness would be a great thing. I was a child of private exlusive clubs in Westchester, and given the opportunity I would have preferred to have had the chance to spend my summer days with all different types of people, not just those of the same religion or socio economic background. Diversity as in variety is the spice of life.

    I think that buying Hampshire and turning the facility into an open environment for all to join, would set the tone for the future of Mamaroneck town and village. I think there’s got to be some TARP money left in the kitty for this sort of positive influence on society :-)

  • We need a proper park and recreational facilities badly!

  • Larchmont Larry

    PAY to buy the facility!
    PAY extra taxes to make up the lost rateable!
    PAY to use the facility!

    Is anyone else picking up a pattern here?

    • Anon E Mous

      Yes. Three Card Monte.

      Hope more others are noticing it too, but not enough evidence of this or not enough care enough to stop it.

      School has pool.
      Residents pay school taxes.
      Municipality rents pool from schools.
      Residents pay municipality taxes.
      Wanna use the pool?
      Pay again!

      Same game with budgets.
      Take from reserves.
      Borrow more.
      Increase revenue estimates.
      Balanced budget.
      Pay later; by others.

      I keep reading between the lies. – Goodman Ace

      • Caddy Shack

        Get used to it newcomers – us lifers have been paying those fees since the inception of the Hommocks pool.

        Tell us something we don’t know……..

        • Anon E Mous

          OK, something you don’t know – not to get used to it, not to get used to much at all.

          The only thing that really stops change is – THE END.

          Be a leader, be a follower, but don’t stand in the way of the train.

          ‘There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why… I dream of things that never were and ask why not.’ – RFK

          • Caddy Shack

            Not standing in the way of the train but do you realize that train dates back to 1968? And people have been paying for it, for people like YOU to use it, for all these years??? Do you want a good debate? A “fair” and “level” playing ground (pun intended!), then ponder this:

            You come straddling into our lovely town one day because you recognize its beauty, its offerings and amenities and its fabulous this and that (too much to list). And now that you’ve “arrived” we, the life long tax paying, law abiding citizens should just pick up and change all the policies that you do not want to pay for? We should just eliminate fees that support the upkeep and offset the tax burdens (yes, it could be worse for you – check out some of the neighboring towns like NR) because AnonEMous and his cronies don’t want to pay for these things anymore – i.e. the usage of the Pool – which at the risk of being redundant, we’ve all had to flip the bill for years prior to your existence here? Oh sure. Should we also eliminate parking fees and train tickets into the City? After all, why should you need to pay for these services? You already pay too much in property taxes and you deserve some freebies in life!!

            Know what I think would be a fair plan? Here, I’ll show you how it lays out: Anyone who has lived in the TOM for the past 20+ years should be exempt from paying for the Pool, since they’ve financially supported for a very long time – some as long as 40+ years as a matter of fact.

            On the flip side, anyone who is here less than 20 years continues to pay. How do we differentiate btwn the two groups? Card carrying members of society is nothing “new” in America. The Hommocks passes can indicate the length of time you’ve been a resident here.

            Simple as that. I’d like to “stop that train” to as long as I have peace of mind that the new kids on the block will be picking up the tab, something that long stand Larchmont residents have done for years in order to be able to pass along this wonderful facility to you and yours….

            The End….to a new beginning!

            • Anon E Mous

              Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don’t think. (Author unknown)

              And unfortunately, your facts, Caddy Shack, as well as your thinking (pun intended), leave much to be corrected.

              You assume people are new and have come to take from you. Do you know how assume is often described?

              You forget that Bernie had this great thing going, and everyone wanted to get in, but a few warned that seeing was not believing, and only some got out in time.

              I’m afraid dear Caddy Shack, that those you think came to take from you your perfect dream, may be those who become the first to leave, and they leave you with the fine mess and debt you’ve yet to realize you’re accumulating. But don’t say there was no warning.

              Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts’ (as attributed to Daniel Moynihan).

            • Richie W.

              I lived there from the 1960′s to the 1990′s, and had to move because the taxes were choking me. Can I get a rebate?

  • liverpoo

    Once again, what business does GOVERNMENT have in managing recreational facilities when the private sector does it in the area ? and what credentials of good management does any local govt in Westchester, from county to district to small town have in good husbandry of public money ?

  • Richie W.

    This will be undoubtedly a financial disaster. People need to see reality.

    • Anon E Mous

      Unfortunately rumor has it that rose colored glasses will be in the vacant retail spaces on Palmer and BPR.

      Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won’t have time to make them all yourself. ~Alfred Sheinwold

  • Caddy Shack

    Anyone remember Caddy Shack and the scene in the swimming pool with Rodney Dangerfield and the Baby Ruth bar floating alongside the bathing queens?

    Maybe, we should consider all the elements and weigh the various factors that might contribute to purchasing such an expansive property. However, if Mamaroneck does not purchase it, think about who may want to do so instead……do the words…”You’re Fired” mean anything to anyone??? Call me crazy but I’d rather see a lone Baby Ruth in a pool than a toupee on a golf course. Just off the top of my head. Ooops!!

  • bobo

    Caddy Shack,
    Rodney was not in that scene.

  • Caddy Shack

    Oh well…there’s always a stickler in every crowd!

    I never said he was in that scene – but he was in the film, Caddy Shack. I just asked if anyone remembered Caddy Shack, Rodney Dangerfield, a Baby Ruth and the pool scene. Here, have a look!!