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Teen’s Jaw Broken On Night of Manor Park Destruction

Along with smashed fences and benches, Larchmont Police report finding beer bottles and cans throughout the park on Saturday morning, May 9

Along with smashed fences and benches, Larchmont Police report finding beer bottles and cans throughout the park on Saturday morning, May 9

The extensive property damage at Manor Park was not the only violence that occurred on Friday, May 8.  A Mamaroneck High School senior sustained a broken jaw in an altercation near the park that night. According to an unofficial source, the fight and the vandalism occurred sometime before 11 pm.  (See: Vandals Attack Manor Park)

Larchmont Police Chief John Poleway reported on Tuesday, May 12 that investigations into the assault and the criminal mischief are ongoing. He anticipates a future “arrest or arrests, as the case may be.”

The chief would not confirm that the two incidents were related, but an unofficial source said a group of Rye Neck teens were responsible for both incidents.

What Started It?

According to a Mamaroneck High School student who requested anonymity because of fear of retaliation, a conflict began early in May between a small group of MHS students and another group from Rye Neck High School. The incident occurred off campus in the evening and escalated later at a Mamaroneck Village park.

Mamaroneck Village Police confirmed that they received a report of a fight at Stanley Avenue Park at around 5 pm on May 2. There were around 30 youths in the park.

The student said a handful of MHS teens faced a much larger number of Rye Neck kids who had been drinking in the park. A neighbor’s threat to call the police de-escalated the confrontation.

But some of the Rye Neck students attempted to re-schedule the fight.

“There was supposed to be a fight at around 9 pm this Friday,” said the MHS student.

Worse Fight Averted?

Mamaroneck Village police were alerted, possibly by someone from Rye Neck.  Youth Officer Oscar Ramos  convinced the MHS students to stay away from the fight.

Evidently, that didn’t stop a large group of Rye Neck youths from showing up en masse near Manor Park. According to the MHS student, when the other side didn’t appear, the Rye Neck students went on a rampage – attacking the fences and benches and then jumping an MHS student who was uninvolved in the original conflict and just happened to be near the park with some friends.

“People at MHS are really pissed that the park was trashed and they know who did it,” said the MHS student.

Other local teens are also blaming Rye Neck students for the damage.

Larchmont Police Respond

The Larchmont police would not comment on the MHS students’ narrative.

Chief Poleway  did confirm  that his department received two calls from park neighbors – both at 10:15 pm on Friday night.

One caller said there was a large group of youths in the middle of Park Avenue. Responding police found approximately 25 to 30 young people in clumps along the road.

After the youths dispersed, the officers made a cursory search of the park and surrounding streets to assure conditions were back to normal, said Chief Poleway.

Much later, at 3 am Saturday morning, the police heard from hospital officials that they were treating a youth who had been assaulted near Manor Park.

And a few hours after that, at  7:20 am on Saturday, the Larchmont police received a report of destruction of benches and fences in the park.

According to Lt. Antonino Rigano, he and other officers responded immediately. They found evidence of “criminal mischief” throughout the park, including fences that had been ripped from their posts. Beer cans and bottles were strewn from one end of the park to the other.

The police assessed the damage, took photos and began interviewing nearby residents.

“Our officers did a good job and are continuing to do a good job,” said Chief Poleway.

He was responding to what he said were untrue reports that the police had failed to respond to calls. He said there had been a review of department tapes and logs from May 8. Other than the two calls at 10:15, there were no other calls about Manor Park, he said.

More Security?

There was a private security guard on duty the night of the incident, but he went off duty at 10 pm.

Manor Park is open to the public during daylight hours but is owned by a neighborhood association, the Larchmont Manor Park Society.

According to the newly installed president of the Manor Park Society, Karin Sherman, her organization had already scheduled an all night shift to begin on May 9.

“We do beef up our security this time of year,” said Ms. Sherman. “It’s mischief month.”

“But this came as quite a shock,” she said.

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33 comments to Teen’s Jaw Broken On Night of Manor Park Destruction

  • Ex-Larchmonter

    Seriously? A “rumble” between kids from two privileged school districts? Woah, these kids must have pretty boring lives to have to seek entertainment this way. I’m picturing Manor Park as a setting for some kind of Westchester Story.

    Jets and Sharks these lame-o’s aren’t.

    (Whole thing would’ve been much more amusing with more music & choreography and less wanton destruction of innocent park objects, though.)

  • Don

    The report that someone’s jaw was reportedly broken in an encounter with the thugs who vandalized Manor Park does not surprise me all too much. In a response to one of the comments to the earlier article on the vandalism, I noted that one could not be entirely sure that the vandals would not have turned their rage on anyone who might have been passing through the park at the time.

    Hopefully, arrests and, afterward convictions, will be forthcoming. Given the gravity of the crimes committed that night–the extent of damage inflicted on the Park, underage drinking, and possible assault–it would be unfortunate if those convicted would merely be released on probation and/or a conditional discharge.

  • P.J.

    Don, Unfortunately it’s the same old story – under age slap the wrist possible restitution and case and file closed.

    i do feel good that someone unnamed will sort of get some heat.

  • Redacted

    Don: PJ is right. If arrests are made, they will be from “good” families. Outrage will turn to defensiveness from the parents — “He’s a good boy — he’s just going through a troubled phase”. . .”He got caught up with a bad crowd”. . .blah . .blah. . blah, ad nauseum. . . No real punishment will take place. This community is way too enlightened for that. . .They must be “understood”. . .”We need a teen center!” I’m with Liz Field—let’s put them in stocks and let people insult them. . .

  • Steve

    I’m not at all surprised – These kids are so controlled – forced into such politically correct BS – that its not surprising that they lash out – I don’t have any answers – maybe a boxing club with an open night to get in the ring with other over active hormonal types

  • Current Larchmonter

    Hmm… Ex-Larchmonter, it seems a bit harsh to label ALL Larchmont and Rye Neck kids as “wannabe thugs” based on this one incident. As a nineteen-year-old living in the Larchmont area, I can assure you that the majority of us kids from “privileged school districts” with “boring lives” do NOT “seek entertainment” by fighting in parks. Though there are some individuals who engage in such activities, I cannot imagine that our town has a problem with this type of violent behavior exceeding any other community in the surrounding area. I am not suggesting that there shouldn’t be retribution for the destructive actions of our “troubled youth”–that goes without saying (and unfortunately does not happen to the extent that it should)–but I can guarantee that this sort of conduct is not the norm of the students in our community. Despite the few bad apples, the greater majority of students at MHS truly appreciate the rarity that is Manor Park, and are grateful that it is a part of our community. We understand–certainly to a much greater degree than many adults realize–that we live in a privileged area, and are thankful for it.

  • next town over

    so, the cops break up a group of 25-30 “young people,”make a cursory search of the park, and then what? leave to fight all the major crime that takes place in larchmont? come on, 25-30 kids is a lot of kids. cops were kids once. i’m sure they remember those days. did they really think that those “young people” were all going to go home?

    why didnt they make an effort to put a little fear into them? they could have asked to see id. they could have written down some names. they could have driven past manor park a half hour later, an hour later, two hours later…

    i wonder if the police are so whipped by the lawyer parents of larchmonts “young people” that they are afraid to get involved.

    • Larchmonter with two sons

      I agree with the writer from “next town over.” I think the police failed us. They should have taken the kids names and stayed close by the park, and I’d like to know why they didn’t. I have a hard time believing there was a lot of other crime keeping them busy during the night of the vandalism in our very special park.

      • susan

        100% agree with “Larchmonter with two sons” and “next town over”. Parents protecting their children in these instances are doing more harm to their children than good. What a shame.

  • Meds

    The impression that I get from this article is that the police absolutely FAILED the citizens of Larchmont and Mamaroneck with their response to these criminal acts. Very disappointing.

  • Lee Stringer

    When I was in my late teens, there were any number of activities and centers in Mamaroneck geared toward us and where young people could harmlessly blow off a little steam. Now there is nothing. It’s a given that teens left on their own, without the option of fun. safe, organized, activities from which to choose, are all the more likely to find their way into mischief. While we must apprehend and prosecute those whom break the law, the preference, I’m sure of all involved is to not have such incidents in the first place. The jails and courts are not the whole answer.

  • Larchmonter

    Maybe in this economy all the parents won’t be out at chic new restaurants every Friday and Saturday nights and perhaps might supervise their children or at least offer home based activities.

  • patty

    twas not the fault of them larchmont kids. they didnt do anything. k????

  • Larchmonter

    This is about kids, their parents, lack of supervision, it is not specific to Larchmont families. Are we that parochial that we think we can draw strict boundaries between our small villages? The issues are the same if the damage was done by Larchmont kids Rye Neck kids or any others.

  • Redacted

    Lee Stringer: My mention of a teen center was sarcasm. Do you really think the type of kids who went on this rampage would be the kinds of kids who would be interested in “fun, safe, organized activities”?

    If so, I hear there is a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

    And for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t characterize the damage done as mere “mischief”. . “Mischief” might be putting shaving cream on a car—not trashing a beautiful and unique park. . .

    You are proof of my earlier assertion—there will be no shortage of individuals in this community to excuse this incident. .

    • Lee Stringer

      Why is it that every time someone talks about prevention in addition to punishment, some get their nose out of joint? Oh yeah, I know why–because it doesn’t satisfy some people’s sense of revenge. Especially those whom refer to other’s sons and daughters as “those kind of kids.”
      And yes I do believe the option of safe, organized, places to be would make a difference. At the very least the darlings you apparently take the victims to be would be there instead of someplace where they are vulnerable to attack. That was my point. Punishment, as I said, must be meted out for those who break the rules. But that’s after the fact. I’d rather think about preventing such incidents in the first place. So, the reason you and I don’t see eye to eye is simply because my comments were about thinking things through, yours were about venting rage. Two different things.

  • john croke

    Shocked: My old paper route, as kids we never entered Manor Park at nite, grew up in Larchmont in 50s.. You knew who lived in every house and how many children they had. We walked the streets at nite, hangin out. We knew every Policeman by name and called him Mr..
    The Police were ALWAYS patroling they’d stop and say hello, they knew our names. Years later, they drove us home from Garveys. If the police saw a car-load of kids and they didn’t recognize the car they pulled them over. Where you going? Sounds like Larchmont is too Politically Correct.

  • john feuerbach

    john; Must have seen you at Garvey”s. Not too many of us remember that name for Watercolors. I do know that Charlie Ritches the bartender would have kicked our butts if he heard we were involved in any stuff like this!! And yes we did know every policeman by name.Booze does create beer muscles among other things and hopefully these kids will smarten up.

  • Palmer

    I would strongly encourage that the injured student re-think the picture that he has posted on facebook (which will be viewed by college admissions offices and future employers.)

  • anonymous

    This is a response to Palmer’s comment.
    The picture that the student posted was of a bottle of wine only shown in the picture because of the name of the wine. If you were paying any attention to detail at all before you posted that comment, you would see that the bottle is UN-OPENED.
    But thank you for your useless input.

  • anonymous

    The previous anonymous is 100% right

    Palmer might consider minding their own buisness, especially in issues which they clearly have NO knowledge of

  • Sushi Says

    Wow, a lot of hostility on this board tonight. Why all the anger? Kids will be kids. Trashing hotel rooms, parties or parks is all part of growing up. Don’t get me wrong, they should be punished/reprimanded for it but I think the cops have to take some of the heat too. They were called to the scene and didn’t do the job in breaking it up and patrolling the area afterwards.

    As for “thugs” fighting out of boredom – well, as far as I can recall, it’s been going on in Larchmont/Mam’k from the beginning of time. We used to call the bullies greasers in my day. But then the greasers became friendly and even nice to others so there was not a lot of animosity in the end. The thing I found so interesting about Larchmont/Mam’k was that yes, you had a town and village full of very well to do, smart and successful people, but they were perfectly comfortable integrating with those more economically challenged (to put it in today’s pc terms). Even if that meant having a run-in or a roughing-up during their growing up years. I think it made us all stronger and better public citizens today. It built up a lot of character and nobody died in the end. Today life is so pc that living a normal and natural childhood is a lot more challenging. The world is not as safe a place as it was in the past. Plus, the rules have changed. Comparing the 1950′s issues to today’s is not fair to the youth or the new people who have moved in to Larchmont. We must evolve and change with the world. And leading an insular life, as many small towns in America do, is not progressive. These kids will be fine in the long run. They are the future leaders of America, believe it or not!!! Time to throw in the towel and realize that you can’t sweat the small stuff in life. Even if it doesn’t seem very small today. It truly is small in the scheme of things.

    Manor Park will always be a sanctuary – long after we are all gone.

  • Sushi Says

    PS – we should be more upset in their choice of “beer”.

    Coors light? no thank you!!!

  • Anon E Mous

    Sushi. Yes, there are some fine craft beers to be had. Yes, times change and we need to change with the times. But the changes are what we made and what we make of them. Right now I suspect many would say that we ‘in general’ did not do as well as we should in meeting our commitments and obligations to our community and our nation’s future. Fortunately, we still have time for improvement but we need to be careful not to wait too long or owe too much.

  • Lee Stringer

    Two points. Since the phrase “politically correct” has entered the fray, it must be said that the call for what is now dismissed by that term was not in the interest of being correct or avoiding hurt feelings. It was in the interest of making us conscious of how the terms we attach to a person, place, or thing, frames the way we think of it or “them.” It was never intended as a list of proscribed utterances, but rather as a process of self examination. If for instance you are not a bigot at heart, you might wish not to say things in ways that proliferate bigoted points of view. Those of you who are comfortable with your bigotry can go right ahead spouting your derogatory remarks.
    Secondly, from all the “them” and “us” kind of talk pitched
    around in this blog, it’s not hard to figure where our kids get the kind of our side-their side mentality that was obviously a part of the of the whole incident.

  • Larchmont Mom with Two Sons

    To Sushi: well put. I appreciated your comments.

  • Sushi Says

    Lee Stringer – I don’t know you, but w/ all due respect, I will have to disagree with you here. I think you are doing what we call “paralysis by analysis” and it’s one of the very same reasons that our economy and our country is in gridlock right now. We have all these great thinkers – doing nothing more than just that – thinking. Turning everything inside out and upside down and trying to find gaps and holes and crevices where something will prove them right and the other guy wrong. It’s being done with our Health Care reform bill and it’s wreaking havoc on our nation. I am not sure our biggest epidemic is obesity after all. I think it’s progressive inertia. (Which may very well contribute to obesity, now that I think about it…lol!)

    It’s great to be a strategic thinker don’t get me wrong. However,if you talk to most people today, they are tired of all the thinkers we have out there today. Most people want doers, tactical people to replace the agonizing overzealousness of picking and poking everything apart and analyzing it all to death.

    For example, worrying about who said what in what context to whom and how, is all just delaying the inevitable. Stuff happens. Life happens. If we go w/ the flow of energy and don’t worry about hyper sensitivities then we progress forward. Do you know that human beings are 99.999% identical in our makeup? So what are we worrying about here??! We are all basically the same. So,darned if I know….

    My point is not about “them” or “their” or being PC – I injected that term in to my posting to ensure that no one would accuse me here of being unaware, clueless or insensitive – traits that I would never want to be aligned with as I pride myself in being a caring, compassionate and aware person. But with the PC Police out in full force (thar she goes again w/ that darned word!…) I thought I’d cover my …bases!

    In a nutshell; there is no “our side” vs. “their side” – as even a birdbrain would know, it’s clearly wrong to trash public property and start a brawl or continue one rather than keep the peace. I can also sympathize with many long time Larchmonters who have worked their whole lives to keep their neighborhoods beautiful as they have clearly done so well – with a lot of help no doubt from the “newcomers” (a relative term I realize). And no one contests that.

    But is it so out of the ordinary? For adolescent youth to push the pendulum a bit and to ‘behave’ like this? I don’t think so. Does it make it right?? No. But is it the end of the world and unforgivable? Apparently, that depends upon who you ask here. They are not my kids. I do not even know those “involved”. But I am weighing in from a neutral standpoint. Kids will be kids. You can take the boy out of the mountain, but you cant’ take the mountain out of the boy. I recently read a funny excerpt that illustrated a great example of how times have changed. If I can dig it up, I will post it here. But it’s basically recognizing that what used to be seemed as innocent behavior today is viewed in a whole new light because of the way things have shifted in this country and the world. We don’t look at guns or police officers or youth behaving badly in quite the same light anymore. I call it “innocence lost” – and know that every generation goes through it to some degree or another.


    Sushi says: you may substitute the word girl for boy in the above adage, as you please :)

  • Sushi Says

    PS – We could also honor the biblical pledge “do unto others as they do unto you” and gather a large group of 20 – 30 Larchmont/Mam’k kids to go and trash a park in Rye Neck as a sort of payback for the efforts of their youth..

    But somehow or other, I don’t think it would have the most advantageous effects. Treating people exactly the same as they treat you does not always apply – case in point :-)

    Anon E Mous – Agree w/ your beer points and nice to see you back from the summer ‘cation (not sure what the prefix was for you so figured I’d not be presumptuous in saying “vacation” or “staycation” ;-)

  • Lee Stringer


    Point 1-You’re not “doing” either. You are sharing your thoughts like the rest of us.
    Point 2-In escalating my point to where you see it it as virtually all that is wrong with America, you do the precise thing you decry, making your own mountain out of a molehill.

    Finally, it is true that teens get into scraps with one another. When it is over a personal challenge or issue, that’s one thing. But if its over who a person is, it is in fact a big thing. It is entirely against the very concept of the country America purports and struggles to be. And while that may seem all academic to you, I assure you that for those of us of color or of certain lifestyles it is infinitely more dangerous for this type of thing to go unchecked. Have you ever been chased down an alley and beaten by a baseball bat? Or strung up by the neck to a tree? Very real actions that happened all too often not all that long ago.
    So it is you who is intellectualizing.

  • Anon E Mous

    Re September 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 pm · Reply

    To Lee: ‘well put. I appreciated your comments’! Especially the ‘Secondly’ point.

    To all who are interested, including those who think first of ‘pc’ as what we use to read and ‘write’ to the Larchmont Gazette :-)
    some more for thought and review on the long history of ‘pc’ –

  • Sushi Says

    Open letter to Mr. Stringer:

    Regarding point 2 – I am not ‘escalating’ your point but rather I am putting into context the point that too much talking/thinking goes on and not enough action. It is happening on a local, national and even global basis – politically speaking. I think it’s very interesting that small town ‘politics’ including those that divide people in theory really do mirror similar problems we encounter thoughout our country and around the world for that matter.
    Which brings me full circle to my other point, human beings are 99.999% the same in DNA composition, regardless of race or gender. So judging others on visual or even socio economic differences is ludicrous. At the end of the day, we are born alone and we die alone taking “nothing” but our heart and soul with us – not our picayune idiosyncracies.

    And to your question about being chased w/ a baseball bat down the street… but one of my siblings once ran after me w/ a dead hamster to chase me out of the house when I was a little kid. That was pretty traumatizing but not racially motivated I don’t believe….

    However, if you read back in time you’ll see where i posted that my husband is African American and we have experienced the ignorance and foolhardiness of bigotry and prejudice in recent years. It truly breaks my heart to know this is how people treat each other. I also can’t stand when anyone plays the race card – on either side – because it shows us how little we have truly evolved as human beings. Yes we’ve elected the first African American President -but if so many in society are harboring resentments of this nature, then what does it really matter.

    I think Larch/Mam’k has always been well integrated in years past – not necessarily on a numbers basis but on a tolerance/no tolerance basis. Much better than most other communities I’ve seen in the country. It’s had a very positive influence on me and many of my friends and peers who are some of the most accepting of differences and exceptional people I have ever been lucky enough to know, never mind grow up with -and I hope that never changes for others living in the community. It’s truly a great place to live and raise a family. But nothing is ever going to be perfect. That is one thing you can definitely count on in life!

  • Anon E Mous

    Sushi – The opportunity for improvement confronts us all, as you’ve said, ‘nothing’ is ever going to be perfect. Let’s meet it head-on.

  • Lee Stringer

    Well Sushi you’ve managed to do it again: slip off into yet another subject. I don’t believe the issue here is whether this is a decent place to live or not. I do believe the issue is that the more we move toward a more enlightened understanding of our interconnectedness–our 99% sameness. if you will, the less these types of incidents will occur in this particular “them” and “us” way.
    As for yet another issue that you have appended to this discussion, I too prefer a world in which the so-called “race card” doesn’t figure so prominently in things. Curiously this term has only emerged now, not over the hundreds of years being white was–and in some respects continues to be–the ultimate race card.
    Finally, I’d say Mamaroneck more than Larchmont has achieved a noticeable level of diversity. I’d say this is less due to any overt bigotry on the part of Larchmont people–who tend to be liberal on such matters- as it is attributable to economics. Mamaroneck’s population has a larger blue collar component. And as you descend from the upper echelon of income, the picture naturally becomes more heterogeneous.
    Yet even the economics feeds back the other way–as when developers wishing to clear the edge of Washingtonville of the day laborers that had been there for years without raising any particular concern in order to maximize the property values, launched a campaign to vilify them as a community scourge.

    But as I said. That’s another issue.

    And yes, I agree. There is much that I enjoy about living here.